Exclusive Interview | Juliano Rodrigues, General Manager & Head Chef, Out of the Blue Mumbai
/ Editor HospemagHow did it all start? Share your culinary journey with us
My journey with food started pretty early possibly when I was five or six. Born in a modern household to two working parents, where my mother would reach home by late evening and I would get home earlier on, at noon. We had a house help who would fix up meals now and then and on other days, I was left to fix myself a meal. Hunger can definitely push the envelope and make you creative in ways you wouldn’t imagine. I would first skim through my refrigerator to find a quick and easy meal to savor, many-a-time it was a sandwich- bread, butter, and jam (sometimes pickle, don’t ask me why).
I learned very early on not to be co-dependent on anyone for food and devised a way to always fix myself a meal with leftovers and ingredients stored away at home. Whenever I did get a home-cooked meal prepared by my mother, I would devour it and never complain about what was on my plate, that kick-started my love-love relationship with food.
What are your earliest memories of the kitchens you worked in
Earlier on in my career, during my stint with the Rodas Ecotel Hotel, I would devise quick and effective ways to get the cooking condiments, tray ready. To give you an example, instead of chopped garlic, I would slow cook garlic and infuse it in oil, innovations like combining celery with salt, etc, little things that could elevate the taste without much effort. This way I could be ahead of the order service and deliver a consistent product, each time. This really helped me earlier on, especially because at the time I was handling the soup, grill, pasta, and fryer stations, as well as plating the food.
A dish your patrons/guest love
At Out of the blue, we love to experiment with continental cuisine and give it an Indian twist, my customers love the Penne Masala Mafia and Cottage cheese steak Paprika.
A dish that you love but do not have on your menu
The Duck Confit for sure, we currently have it on our seasonal menu and we’ve seen the response it gets. Hoping to include this on our regular menu super soon.
What according to you does it take to become a successful chef?
Having worked in this space for a while, I can confidently say that patience and understanding what your guest wants are the two primary things to bear in mind when curating anything. In the restaurant industry, things take time to come to fruition, we have to pre-plan everything, patience helps you stay focused and organized and helps you deliver on your ideas. You cannot expect everything to happen all at once, there is a process, there is testing, there is client feedback, there is the monetary aspect, and there is the pricing and marketing strategy, they all play a pivotal role in making any idea, a reality.
Secondly, no matter how revolutionary an idea sounds to me, I will always put myself in the customer’s shoes to comprehend whether a client would like a certain product or not. Would they be willing to try out a new menu item just by the sound of it? There is a lot of R&D that goes on behind the scenes to bring a meal to the table.
What advice would you give to a young culinary student?
Pursue your passions. I know it may sound trivial but try to work around things that you are good at. Sometimes it takes trying something to know whether you are good at it. Experience can teach you twice as much as education can. Try to partner with the right companies earlier on in your career to grasp all the necessary knowledge and learnings you need to upskill yourself.
7. Your favourite ingredient is…
Millets especially Fox Millet, it is a great ingredient to use as a base for any meal. It is rich in Vitamin B12, fiber, and protein, it is a great healthy alternative to your regular carbs.
What do you have in store for your guests in the coming months?
we have the release of the new Deli by the blue menu that should go live in the coming months. Great things from the brand are coming your way.
Mastering new techniques is essential for continuous quality improvement, and chefs should explore advanced methods like sous-vide, fermentation, and molecular gastronomy to expand their team’s skills.
Integrity, innovation, and respect for tradition are my guiding principles. I believe in constantly pushing the boundaries of what Indian cuisine can be, while staying true to its roots.
A good chef doesn't have to be a popular celebrity, even a small south Indian café chef prepares delicious dishes which people stand in a queue to get hands-on, I feel is successful in a way of its own.
If I were to transform into a vegetable, the choice would be clear: I would be broccoli. Not only is broccoli one of the most nutritious and versatile vegetables, but it also embodies a unique blend of resilience and adaptability that mirrors my own traits.
To become a successful chef, you need:
Passion: A burning love for food that keeps you up at night dreaming of your next dish.
Mad Skills: You’ve got to slice, dice, and sauté like a wizard with a spatula.
Creative Spark: The ability to turn ordinary ingredients into culinary magic.
Obsessive Attention to Detail: Because every grain of salt and garnish matters.
Kitchen Kung Fu: Leading your team with the finesse of a maestro conducting a symphony.
Flexibility: Rolling with the punches when the soufflé sinks or the orders pile up.
Business Savvy: Balancing the books while balancing flavors.
Forever a Student: Embracing lifelong learning, because the food world never stops evolving.
The only advice I can give to young chefs is that – Be humble, put your head down and work you’re a** off. When given chance to work with the best, TAKE IT! Don’t involve your personal ego when you deal with people who are way more experienced than you. Ask questions, steal recipes, don’t say no to difficult task, be ready to clean floor and dishes but make the most of the opportunity given to you.
My passion for cooking and the late- night cravings of a young adult led me to launch a small home-based kitchen named 'Night Foodies' in 2013. Working through the nights making burgers and pizzas, I discovered a deeper truth: food was my true calling.
Learn to cook first and then think of becoming famous. Focus on skills and knowledge development rather than looking to become a social media star. Money will come for sure provided you don’t run behind it.
Guler Kabab is my family recipe, and this is what my parents used to make together in the kitchen. It has a surprise stuffing element that is a little sweet and spicy, which usually people don’t expect in a kabab. I learned this recipe from my mother, and I always ensure to serve it to my diners. It gives me extra brownie points. It is a home recipe and something that you won't find otherwise in anyone else’s house.
There was this one time where a guest requested a “Omelette without egg”. It was something that really shocked and amused me. I had not even imagined this kind of dish. But since it was requested by the customer, I had to take up the challenge.
I am India's first Corporate Executive Chef for an Indian cruise line.
Eating butter out of my grandma's hands while she churned home made white butter every morning for breakfast. Having that when I was three, I clearly remember it. The love had a lot of flavour, better than the ingredients.
In pursuit of a holistic approach to dining, the year 2024 will witness a surge in the popularity of balanced meals. The concept of Thalis, featuring a diverse array of nutrients, will transcend specific cuisines, becoming a prevalent trend.
Each recipe is a creative genius of someone who is willing to think out of the box and that is an important characteristic that a chef should possess and be able to appreciate that same quality in others.
I think to be a successful Chef one needs to have presence of mind as we are playing with different ingredients and we should understand them better and their combinations apart from a passion and love for cooking.
A successful chef is like a passionate artist in the kitchen. They make delicious meals that make your taste buds dance.
Do not ever run after money when you are starting your career. Remember that whatever is taught to you during your academic days, those are very basic and just to create a strong base. With the expertise of your academic learning, you cannot become a Master Chef and cannot claim a high salary. Hence it is your responsibility to work under various Chefs and to learn and when you are learning you cannot run after money.
The challenge lies in finding the delicate balance between creative presentation and ensuring that each component harmonizes with, rather than overpowers, the star of the show - the main dish.
What according to you does it take to become a successful chef? Follow the 3 D's That is -Determination, Dedication, and Devotion, these D's will help you achieve your goals. Also never give up at any time, nothing is impossible.
Good communication and teamwork are needed because cooking is a group effort. Leading a kitchen and a team takes leadership and organization.-Chef Vadim Shin
For aspiring culinary students embarking on this delectable journey, my advice is straightforward yet profound: embrace the virtues of patience and continuous learning.
We are willing to go to great lengths to satisfy the unique, and sometimes unusual, culinary preferences of our patrons, thus ensuring that their dining experiences are truly memorable.
A delicious reminder of the power of food to connect us to our roots and tell a story that transcends time.
The world of kitchens boasts its own array of superstitions and endearing traditions. A standout belief involves stirring dishes counterclockwise, believed by some to bring misfortune. While I approach these with light-heartedness, they contribute to the vibrant mosaic of kitchen culture.
If you were a vegetable, which one would you be, and why?
I think my daughter would agree if I say I would be a potato for being bit round and very versatile if I may say so.
“Embrace hard work, discipline, and time management as this industry requires all these aspects to be a way forward”
DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE & MORE DISCIPLINE